Hi all

I recall reading somewhere that you can infact set a betting price as a minimum eg $5.00 with one of the major betting sites. So if it stays under no bet. If its $5.00 or over the bet is placed. Not sure if it was IAS or not.

Does anyone recall or know of this.

regards
ubetido

[ This Message was edited by: ubetido on 2004-11-10 14:15 ]

Stugs
I'd appreciate a copy of your spreadsheet.
jacfin@mail.nu
Thanks

TwoNix program UBet looks sensational, but at $2000-$9000 per year, is just not in my ballpark. As I already know my selections, a cut down version that just price qualifies and places bets is all I need. I guess at the moment I have to be satisfied with catching what I can.

Bookies who offer SP prices usually have this facility.
There`s a program called **************** ,I think that can do it on any TAB in the country ,provided you have an A/C with that TAB

It can show & bet ,at the best price of all the TABs at once

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Cheers.

Shy - simply use Betfair!

With IAS you can set a minimum price for a bet, was only available by phone last I heard

It is extremely difficult to define an approach to a betting system.

The best programs I have ever used and still to this day I base these principles from those programs, are in DOS, and other computer languages now obsolete.
But they work and work extremely well.

The problem is, "progress", and the programs become useless as time moves on.
But if one goes full circle, it comes back to these basic programs every time.

If you want to use the markets and market fluctuations, now we have the internet. Beofre it was the teletxt where one program I know of, you had to type in the numbers and the calculation was done, but it gave you the calculation required for selections and hedge unit amounts,correctly.
This program is now useless, there is no teletext as it was before.

OK, so import prices. Yeah, and ?
Can't import those prices to an obsolete DOS based program, but one still wants the calculations done by that same program.

Then there was another updated version of a similar program. This automated what the manual program did. It scanned the markets and did stuff.
Now that is obsolete. It still works, and still can be modified, if one can get to the code.
The next option, approach a programmer to "make it happen".

Programmer has clients all wanting a program to "do stuff".The clients have various ideas and formulas etc, so what does the programer do ?
If the programmer has 50 clients all wanting their own version of a racing program, does that programmer develop 50 different programs ?
Or does he/she develop one basic program where user friendly code can be utilized ?

Object orientated coding is an option.

Then this starts a whole new ball game. The "punter" now has to learn to write code to develop their architecture.

So the "objects" are:
1.The Market
2.The TAB
3.The Internet for prices or other scources , to gather prices.
4. Form vendors.
and possibly other things I have not thought of.

Object Orientated coding is possibly a key to developing systems.

It can tie all the above in a bundle at anyones disposal, but who is going to learn how to write this code ?
Who can pay someone to write the code ?

There are no tutorials specific to satisfy the minority in this area.
Use google and type in "Object Orientated Code".
Nothing there specific for to suite the first 4 basic requirements.

Let me know if anyone can find something, and surely the next step is possible.

puntz, i appreciate what you are saying, all i would add is that if one can clearly state the objectives & requirements of ones desired betting "program", then those objectives & requirements can almost certainly met by someone with a sound knowledge of excel,lotus etc.

after all what lies behind all these $10k "racing programs"? - a spreadsheet, a data base & a word processor, integrated into a neat package.

whilst i dont use a "system" as such, i have developed a mechanical method for "doing the form" which requires about 5-10min of data entry per race (tedious work at times which is often worthwhile & regularily not!).

now what i need to do if find a way to import that data directly from the net (for free of course!), a task which has proven difficult so far...any help anyone?

Dear Puntz,

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Management.

OK
I can write a paper that will alllow the formation of a structre to add ANY program's function to work in harmony.
What Shy is asking is exactly that, and possibly a refelction of what many require.
Yes, it DOES cost alot of money to pay people to sit and write program code.
There IS a program that does just that anyway, all you do is write a code and the program excecutes the function.
But it ain't mine and it ain't my bat, so to speak.
Just gonna have to wait when the owner of that "bat" is ready.
I have done all I can.

I'm a programmer and work in a database language that has a very basic ability to interact with the internet. Stugs and Puntz have pretty well summed up what a programmer needs in order to create a custom program and also highlighted one of the main drawbacks.
I take advice from customers pretty frequently and the hardest part of the job is finding out what they really want. They will say they want a program that does this and when you've written it they will say "Did I say that, no that will never work, I really wanted it to do this." I imagine writing a program for a collective of punters with their own views on what they want the program to do would be a nightmare. (You could end up with as many software options as windows and be dead before you worked out how to make a bet the way you wanted.)
What I usually ask is how would you do this job manually and then try to automate a person's manual system.
Coming back to Shy's original post it looks quite an easy job. He enter's his horses and acceptable prices, the software logs in to IAS and downloads their prices and if they match up OK the software sends a bet to the selected bookie (assuming the bookie sight is enabled for automatic bet placement otherwise it would be rather more difficult although not impossible).
There are always problems of course. Shy enters his Kiwi horse's name as xxxx NZ and IAS happens to call it xxxx (NZ) so the two can't recognise each other. Then no doubt a week after the program was written one of the sights would update their software or change the format of their data or something and the program would need altering to accomodate that. I don't envy anyone who is trying to write a program which accesses the net (you wouldn't believe how crap the data on the net is) and has to please a group of people who all have different views on what it should do.
Anyway, although I'm not a specialist by any means on writing internet based programs I know enough to say "forget thinking of getting a program custom written". Too expensive. But I wouldn't mind betting there is a program out there somewhere which will do exactly what Shy or anybody else wants. There usually is and it's just a case of being lucky enough to look in the right place. Oh and of course being able to afford it when you find it. Because net based programming for diverse tastes is such a pain in the ******** I suppose it's bound to be expensive.