Team Pl W L PF PA Pts Perc
St Kilda 22 19 3 2412 1768 76 136.4
Port Adel 22 16 6 2306 1874 64 123.0
Melbourne 22 15 7 2194 1986 60 110.4
Geelong 22 14 8 2224 1956 56 113.7
West Coast 22 14 8 2210 1970 56 112.1
Sydney 22 12 10 2102 2078 48 101.1
Fremantle 22 11 11 2074 2106 44 98.4
Carlton 22 11 11 2020 2160 44 93.5

W Bulldogs 22 11 11 1990 2190 44 90.8
Bris Lions 22 10 12 2122 2058 40 103.1
Essendon 21 10 11 1926 2064 40 93.3
Richmond 22 9 13 1964 2216 36 88.6
Hawthorn 22 8 14 1992 2188 32 91.0
Kangaroos 22 7 15 1962 2218 28 88.4
Adelaide 22 5 17 1938 2242 20 86.4
Collingwood 21 3 18 1814 2176 12 83.3

Are you feeling okay BJ.
Surely the Pies will win more games than they lose?
And I do feel they are entitled to play at least 22 games.

Don't know what happened.... Must have given up and not turned up for the last game.....

I wouldn't blame them after winning only 3 of their first 21.

Obviously missed an Essendon/Collingwood match. I will give it to Essendon pushing them into 8th and Carlton out into 9th.....
These are the results from that link anyway.
I don't know about Brisbanes final position but I think the rest will be quite accurate. Look for big improvements from Bulldogs and Carlton.....

Mate, don't know what you are on mate but Carlton, Western Bulldogs and Melb should be swabbed by VRC steward Des Gleeson if they finish where you think.

Bulldogs are hopeless and have it on good authority it will be Grant last year, had enough of carrying club and leg still not the same.

Carltons forwards won't win enough as Favola and Whitnell will run too hold and plenty COLD during season.

Pies can't win comp but would like to get set anywhere if you no of a bookie that they wont be last or Brisbane to make 8


Cheers mate and good luck if having punt.


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West Coast might surprise. Already on track for a great season. Been blooding the youngins in the pre-season comp, and doing well.

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Ta me go maith

Be a surprise if they don't surprise.
You musta just got out of gaol.
West Coast is favourite for the Wizard Cup and Judd won the Brownlow last year.

I reckon the top 6 will probably be:
Port
St. Kilda
West Coast
Geelong
Brisbane
Sydney.

Then I'm having trouble working out 7th and 8th. It should be out of (in no particular order) Fremantle, Melbourne, Essendon, Carlton and Collingwood.

When going through the draw, I actually have Brisbane outside the top 8 for a large part of the first half of the season.

Sportz
There seems to a major delusion brewing nationally that Brisbane are in trouble and no hope this year
Now this could be because of the following
1.Lynch retired
2.Bad boy Jonathon out for first five rounds
3.Smooth Simon out for first three
I think they will finish first four
Everyone knows that injuries lost them the Grand final last year,taking nothing away from ports performance.
They are currently $6.50 to win premiership,out from $4 (sept 26,2004)
They will keep getting out because of missing key players from the first 5 rounds,then be full strength and then lookout.There are enough opportunities from then on to win,and remember you dont have to finish top 2 to win the comp.
Cheers